in the Game Informer mag i think, they have the ratings of various videogames.. GTA4 got 10/10, RDR got 9.5/10 or somethin simular.. I enjoy playing GTAiv but i wont give it a 10 for plenty of reasons.. like the police force and how boring it gets after the whole storyline is passed.. Red Dead Red was 10/10 in my eyes, IV was probly like 8.8/10.