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Well , when your addicted and using all the time........

Im not judging either, but... Lets all agree to face reality.

There is nothing even remotely addictive in marijuana. Any potential addiction is exclusively because of the user.

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Well , when your addicted and using all the time........

Im not judging either, but... Lets all agree to face reality.

There is nothing even remotely addictive in marijuana. Any potential addiction is exclusively because of the user.

What are you trying to say?

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What were you trying to say? You accused Otiz of being addicted to a non-addictive substance. Were you trying to say something other than what you actually said?

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Marijuana is addictive to some people.

If you can't/don't put the pipe down to the point where you are smoking every day you have an addiction.

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Marijuana is addictive to some people.

If you can't/don't put the pipe down to the point where you are smoking every day you have an addiction.

You're blaming the substance instead of the individual. Anyone who thinks they're addicted to marijuana is really just the kind of person who needs something to latch onto, no matter what it is. If marijuana didn't exist, those people would just be "addicted" to something else. Alternatively, they're retarded, and don't know what real addiction is.

And smoking every day in no way indicates an addiction. A massive number of pot smokers smoke daily (though I don't believe they're the majority anymore).

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Marijuana is addictive to some people.

If you can't/don't put the pipe down to the point where you are smoking every day you have an addiction.

You're blaming the substance instead of the individual. Anyone who thinks they're addicted to marijuana is really just the kind of person who needs something to latch onto, no matter what it is. If marijuana didn't exist, those people would just be "addicted" to something else. Alternatively, they're retarded, and don't know what real addiction is.

And smoking every day in no way indicates an addiction. A massive number of pot smokers smoke daily (though I don't believe they're the majority anymore).

I'm not blaming anyone, save Otiz. That's all in your mind, Massacre.

There are obviously different levels of addiction and addiction at any level is obviously dependent upon the person.

You want to argue about nothing, or either you've deluded yourself into believing using pot has no consequences. If you smoke every day, there are many consequences that can be empirically proven.

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You want to argue about nothing

I always want to argue, but I only do it when I'm right.

you've deluded yourself into believing using pot has no consequences. If you smoke every day, there are many consequences that can be empirically proven.

At no point were we discussing consequences of long-term use. We were only talking about addiction.

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I don't believe you can be addicted for a day, sir. And there are many imminent consequences of smoking pot which do not require long term use.

Also, i said Otiz is an addict, not Weed is addicting. Which should have led you (based on what you've said) to say nothing.

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ummmm.....i have an addictive personality. also, i smoke it all the time cause i enjoy the effect. simple.

that comment i said is an inside joke, because when i come in the room to smoke a j, it's also when i come on here. qd, however doesn't realize that.

....and yes....tobacco is the real issue.

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I would say I am addicted to weed - although I can function all day straight without feeling any noticeable withdrawal symptoms other than minor irritability, I can't sleep without it ... but that is because I have a addictive personality... I also smoke cigarettes and have had issues with other drugs... glad I didn't try crack when it had a burst of popularity here otherwise I would be fucked for sure...

There are long term effects and I know all too well what they because I experience them... don't really care about them though...

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ummmm.....i have an addictive personality. also, i smoke it all the time cause i enjoy the effect. simple.

that comment i said is an inside joke, because when i come in the room to smoke a j, it's also when i come on here. qd, however doesn't realize that.

....and yes....tobacco is the real issue.

As long as you can admit it....

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Most users don't become addicted, but rather dependant on it. They use it to cope with things or to function with certain things, like Gingin and sleep. You can experience withdrawal if you seriously smoke enough, including irritability, headache, GI problems, etc.

Come up with all the excuses you want, many of you need marijuana for reasons all in your mind. Even if you claim to need it for medical reasons, it's not a miracle drug, it only does so much and there needs to be way more studies done.

I'm not against it and do recognize its benefits, but weed culture annoys the shit out of me, and when people talk about it non-stop I also find it extremely annoying.

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Most users don't become addicted, but rather dependant on it. They use it to cope with things or to function with certain things, like Gingin and sleep. You can experience withdrawal if you seriously smoke enough, including irritability, headache, GI problems, etc.

Come up with all the excuses you want, many of you need marijuana for reasons all in your mind. Even if you claim to need it for medical reasons, it's not a miracle drug, it only does so much and there needs to be way more studies done.

I'm not against it and do recognize its benefits, but weed culture annoys the shit out of me, and when people talk about it non-stop I also find it extremely annoying.

Then stay out of the weed topic.

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Most users don't become addicted, but rather dependant on it. They use it to cope with things or to function with certain things, like Gingin and sleep. You can experience withdrawal if you seriously smoke enough, including irritability, headache, GI problems, etc.

Come up with all the excuses you want, many of you need marijuana for reasons all in your mind. Even if you claim to need it for medical reasons, it's not a miracle drug, it only does so much and there needs to be way more studies done.

I'm not against it and do recognize its benefits, but weed culture annoys the shit out of me, and when people talk about it non-stop I also find it extremely annoying.

Then stay out of the weed topic.

I don't see the difference between addiction and dependence.

And yes, gtagrl, different points of view should not be tolerated. You and the people working to keep weed illegal should get along quite well.

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I'm all for different points of view, but if weed discussion annoys the shit out of Brian, he can refrain from participating. I hate baseball, do you see me in our baseball topic all the time complaining about it? No. At least you're actually contributing to the conversation, Qd. Brian isn't, so he can fuck off.

Brian, you're spouting an ignorant point of view based on your complete lack of knowledge about life-changing chronic pain. It isn't addictive, and it isn't all in your head. No one here is claiming it's a miracle drug, but when you look at the side effects and potential for crippling addiction of opiates when compared to weed, and how easily our doctors prescribe extremely strong medications for pain or sleep, well I'd much rather be consuming cannabis both for the buzz as well as the positive medical benefits. No one has overdosed on weed, or ended up with an addiction that ruined their life. As other wise voices have said here, if you tend to have an addictive personality, that's the person, don't blame the weed.

If there's a need for more studies done, whose propaganda machine has prevented it? Why has there been billions of dollars invested in developing Viagra or other frivolous pharmaceuticals, but somehow there 'aren't enough studies done' about a plant that's been around and used for centuries, if not longer? If the plastics industry hadn't decided to suppress the hemp industry, an easy scapegoat because of the THC association, perhaps we'd be living a more sustainable life over all instead of draining the planet's oil resources to make petroleum and petrochemical products. Think about that the next time you bring home a plastic gadget, shrink wrapped in plastic, in a plastic bag. The priorities are skewed by the corporations that post billion dollar profits and lobby government into their back pocket, rather than it being dictated by the citizens. If it were up to me, they'd have spend money on studies by now and have medical marijuana production down to a scientific art, with THC levels controlled down to a tee - including the non-THC strains that help children with epilepsy.

I'll stick to my plants, thanks very much.

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Most users don't become addicted, but rather dependant on it. They use it to cope with things or to function with certain things, like Gingin and sleep. You can experience withdrawal if you seriously smoke enough, including irritability, headache, GI problems, etc.

Come up with all the excuses you want, many of you need marijuana for reasons all in your mind. Even if you claim to need it for medical reasons, it's not a miracle drug, it only does so much and there needs to be way more studies done.

I'm not against it and do recognize its benefits, but weed culture annoys the shit out of me, and when people talk about it non-stop I also find it extremely annoying.

Perhaps some advice. If you don't like gays, stay out of the gay bar. Seems fitting about now :D

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I like gay bars. I don't want to smoke gay people, though. The orange-flavored lube really fucks up the smoky applewood flavor I try to maintain in my grilled and smoked meats.

I mean, it used to be apple lube, but suddenly they're all into orange. I dunno who decides these trends.

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Tangerine flavored lube is where it's at. Strawberry is old news.

I feel lucky to have good nugs. To me it is a lot like having a fine wine or drink, or food. I don't get the perspective of folks that likely have never tried weed and think that it's related to heroin or that you're going to flop around on the floor in withdrawal if you don't get your "weed fix". It usually comes from a misunderstanding of the subject and the plant.

on another topic...

LINKIN NARK. lol

http://musicfeeds.co...lime-with-rome/

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Most users don't become addicted, but rather dependant on it. They use it to cope with things or to function with certain things, like Gingin and sleep. You can experience withdrawal if you seriously smoke enough, including irritability, headache, GI problems, etc.

Come up with all the excuses you want, many of you need marijuana for reasons all in your mind. Even if you claim to need it for medical reasons, it's not a miracle drug, it only does so much and there needs to be way more studies done.

I'm not against it and do recognize its benefits, but weed culture annoys the shit out of me, and when people talk about it non-stop I also find it extremely annoying.

Perhaps some advice. If you don't like gays, stay out of the gay bar. Seems fitting about now :D

This topic is about whether or not weed should be legal and do you smoke pot. Not a hookah bar in Amsterdam, brah.

Nice try tho.

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