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Twin Snakes is MGS 1, and it's available on the XBOX & GC. MGS 3 isn't an exclusive anymore no matter how recently that became the case.

Also, a trip to the MGS thread might do you some good. MGS V IS Phantom Pain. Saying Phantom Pain isn't MGS V is like saying Snake Eater isn't MGS3. Ground Zeroes appears to be a prologue for MGS V.

I really don't see why you're trying to argue with me anyway, though the MGS series cleary favors SONY, the fact remains that the MGS franchise isn't PS exclusive. MGS4 was, but not the "series".

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blahblahblah... least it made the Xbox much cheaper, so that all the casuals could pretend that they had the best system (and the only one that they could afford)... blahblahblah

I bought a 360 because I couldn't wait a year for next-gen gaming and neither could my friends. Not because it was the only one I could afford (I'm very rich). I think your inner fanboy should take a chill pill. We're here to discuss next-generation gaming, as gamers. It's only natural that we compare the two systems, so you may continue in that regard. However, we don't need someone to convince us which one is better, we're all adults (mostly) who can make that decision for ourselves. In fact, it's quite insulting that you think we're in need of your little crusade. I like to think that most of us at iGTA (bar the GTAV board) are a little smarter than your average forum-dweller.

If this continues, I suggest we have an XboxOne vs PS4 thread.

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I bought a 360 because I couldn't wait a year for next-gen gaming and neither could my friends. Not because it was the only one I could afford (I'm very rich). I think your inner fanboy should take a chill pill. We're here to discuss next-generation gaming, as gamers. It's only natural that we compare the two systems, so you may continue in that regard. However, we don't need someone to convince us which one is better, we're all adults (mostly) who can make that decision for ourselves. In fact, it's quite insulting that you think we're in need of your little crusade. I like to think that most of us at iGTA (bar the GTAV board) are a little smarter than your average forum-dweller.

If this continues, I suggest we have an XboxOne vs PS4 thread.

What's the matter, you mad bro?

I know that the truth hurts, but it's good to live in the real world. Instead of this fantasy one in which Microsoft and their Xbox are somehow helping gaming...

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I bought a 360 because I couldn't wait a year for next-gen gaming and neither could my friends. Not because it was the only one I could afford (I'm very rich). I think your inner fanboy should take a chill pill. We're here to discuss next-generation gaming, as gamers. It's only natural that we compare the two systems, so you may continue in that regard. However, we don't need someone to convince us which one is better, we're all adults (mostly) who can make that decision for ourselves. In fact, it's quite insulting that you think we're in need of your little crusade. I like to think that most of us at iGTA (bar the GTAV board) are a little smarter than your average forum-dweller.

If you don't comprehend that line ^there^ Sox then you should take your pathetic fanboy ass out of this thread. We all know the ONE looks like shit. You've seen it, never held it, played it, or seen it's full functionality. Yet you're so quick to jump all over it and dismiss it as crap. How about instead of acting like a bitchy 8-year old you actually contribute to the conversation, because at this point, it seems like you're just bitching for the sake of bitching (In which case go jack off in R&R). Seriously, stop acting like a child, your fanboy "knock-it-before-I-try-it" attitude has done nothing but de-rail a perfectly stable discussion.

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If you don't comprehend that line ^there^ Sox then you should take your pathetic fanboy ass out of this thread. We all know the ONE looks like shit. You've seen it, never held it, played it, or seen it's full functionality. Yet you're so quick to jump all over it and dismiss it as crap. How about instead of acting like a bitchy 8-year old you actually contribute to the conversation, because at this point, it seems like you're just bitching for the sake of bitching (In which case go jack off in R&R). Seriously, stop acting like a child, your fanboy "knock-it-before-I-try-it" attitude has done nothing but de-rail a perfectly stable discussion.

What the hell are you talking about? I'm just comparing both systems too each other.

And I'm "knocking" the Xbox One because I can see this generation beginning just like the last one did. With everyone blinded by Microsoft's bullshit, and the PlayStation not reaching it's full potential.

Already with all the evidence against the X1, people are talking about buying it, or are leaning more towards it over the PS4. I'm just trying to provide some facts about both Nex-Gen Systems, and the old generation systems as well. These facts people don't want too hear. They just want to blindly buy the same crap over and over again, instead of supporting a company that is looking to evolve the Gaming Industry. Not too break into the Multi-Media Industry like Microsoft.

Microsoft has shown that it's next console is not focused on games, both with the limited power of their system, and with it's press conference's focus on TV and Internet over showcasing any new games or IP's.

I'm hoping people aren't dumb this time, and buy the right system ( The PlayStation 4 ). So that games don't stagnate in mediocrity under Microsoft for the next 8 years. I can already see all the advertising for the X1 everywhere here in Oz, and I can barely see anything for the PS4. Microsoft knows how to advertise to the casual audience, and this Gen will probably turn out the same way here as it did before with the last Gen ( with the Shitbox winning here ). It will probably do better in the States as well. The Europeans will probably be the only one's smart enough to seeing through Microsoft's bullshit and buy the right console.

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I bought a 360 because I couldn't wait a year for next-gen gaming and neither could my friends. Not because it was the only one I could afford (I'm very rich). I think your inner fanboy should take a chill pill. We're here to discuss next-generation gaming, as gamers. It's only natural that we compare the two systems, so you may continue in that regard. However, we don't need someone to convince us which one is better, we're all adults (mostly) who can make that decision for ourselves. In fact, it's quite insulting that you think we're in need of your little crusade. I like to think that most of us at iGTA (bar the GTAV board) are a little smarter than your average forum-dweller.

If this continues, I suggest we have an XboxOne vs PS4 thread.

What's the matter, you mad bro?

I know that the truth hurts, but it's good to live in the real world. Instead of this fantasy one in which Microsoft and their Xbox are somehow helping gaming...

It doesn't matter, you're clearly blinded by M$ rage.

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(I'm very rich)

^Twat. :mad:

This is why he's so neutral about the situation, because he know's he will end up owning both regarldess :P Fanboy's (not saying our resident PSFanboy it poor lol) are created by people that can only afford one console, so they cling to that for dear life, and tell themselves it's the best out of denial!

Sorry, i had to make a joke about it.

P.S. :)

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im waiting for E3 to make my decision.

but personally i will probably get an Xbox One.

i really HATE the layout of the PS controllers with the thumb sticks. it just doesn't work with my hands.

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im waiting for E3 to make my decision.

but personally i will probably get an Xbox One.

i really HATE the layout of the PS controllers with the thumb sticks. it just doesn't work with my hands.

Really? I find it a lot better, since it's symmetrical and both your thumbs are on the same level so it's easier for coordination.

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BlackSox, have you heard any info for potential TV on either console in Australia?

I think I read somewhere that the Xbox One would be incorporating compatibility with American Cable Companies first.

With Microsoft slowly making additional cable TV ( like Foxtel here in Oz ) available for the rest of the territories around the world afterwards.

So it could be days, weeks or even months before the Xbox One has compatibility with Australian Satellite and Pay TV Networks.

And as for the Sony's Nex-Gen Console, I have no idea. I guess we'll have to wait for E3 to find out more info about any additional features the PS4 might have.

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All friendly banter aside, I do expect both consoles to consistently produce parallel games by third party developers. My point is, they will both be as good as one another, it's just fun messing around with the competition.

The only thing is looking at the Specs for both systems, it seems to me that the Xbox One will have the sub-quality version of these games.

As long as Dev's don't develop for Microsoft's X1 first, then port it too the PS4 like they did with a lot of 3rd party games this gen for the PS3 ( which gave it the lower quality game/ which everyone liked to point out/ Fricken' Idiots ). And which was mostly due to most people in America owning 360's, even though the PS3 was the more powerful system ( although it was more difficult to code for ).

This gen should hopefully be a bit better for Sony with it's Console being much easier to develop for.

Just take a look at the Specs, the PS4 is obviously the more powerful system.

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Look at how many more Terraflops the PS4 does, look at how many more GPU Cores it has. It has almost triple the memory speed and bandwidth of the Xbox One as well.

Don't get too caught up on specs and power, otherwise the PC guys will migrate into this thread and shame us all.

LOL 8GB RAM on a »»» n_e_X_t----g_En ««« console, are u dizzy blud?

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All friendly banter aside, I do expect both consoles to consistently produce parallel games by third party developers. My point is, they will both be as good as one another, it's just fun messing around with the competition.

The only thing is looking at the Specs for both systems, it seems to me that the Xbox One will have the sub-quality version of these games.

As long as Dev's don't develop for Microsoft's X1 first, then port it too the PS4 like they did with a lot of 3rd party games this gen for the PS3 ( which gave it the lower quality game/ which everyone liked to point out/ Fricken' Idiots ). And which was mostly due to most people in America owning 360's, even though the PS3 was the more powerful system ( although it was more difficult to code for ).

This gen should hopefully be a bit better for Sony with it's Console being much easier to develop for.

Just take a look at the Specs, the PS4 is obviously the more powerful system.

Look at how many more Terraflops the PS4 does, look at how many more GPU Cores it has. It has almost triple the memory speed and bandwidth of the Xbox One as well.

Don't get too caught up on specs and power, otherwise the PC guys will migrate into this thread and shame us all.

LOL 8GB RAM on a »»» n_e_X_t----g_En ««« console, are u dizzy blud?

It's a step up from the current gen RAM of 512MB

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xbox is going after the old wii audience, and we all know how well that console sold to people with families... they've been targeting that audience since the kinect and they will continue to do so... they go where the $$$ is, and nintendo made a buttload of it from that market all the while introducing new people and generations to gaming...

microsoft first got into gaming because it wanted to own the market... they've copied people the entire way, which isn't surprising considering that internet explorer was a rip off of netscape navigator... then comes the wii, who created an entirely new avenue of money revenue... that's the market the X1 wants...

but on the subject of systems and not companies, it doesn't matter which one you buy, they will both play next gen games... i am a hardcore sony supporter, but i am not a fanboy... i know the xbox one will be a capable machine, and millions will buy it...

and for the argument over blu-ray, it was an even keel battle with HD DVD until the porn industry got behind (pun intended) blu-ray... porn has always driven the technology industry forward and in this instance, they chose blu-ray...

and you argue (blacksox) that microsoft didn't focus on games and instead talked about their system and what it can do... umm, wasn't this press conference about revealing the new system?? what makes you think they have to show games?? playstation didn't really talk about games either...

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Since you lost yo' PS3 and went Xbox Nigga

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nHl8mX6SWI

xD

If anything lately I‘ve ditched my consoles altogether for PC gaming. My cousin just sent me Gmod and Dota 2. Speaking of which, you should add me.

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xbox is going after the old wii audience, and we all know how well that console sold to people with families... they've been targeting that audience since the kinect and they will continue to do so... they go where the $$$ is, and nintendo made a buttload of it from that market all the while introducing new people and generations to gaming...

microsoft first got into gaming because it wanted to own the market... they've copied people the entire way, which isn't surprising considering that internet explorer was a rip off of netscape navigator... then comes the wii, who created an entirely new avenue of money revenue... that's the market the X1 wants...

but on the subject of systems and not companies, it doesn't matter which one you buy, they will both play next gen games... i am a hardcore sony supporter, but i am not a fanboy... i know the xbox one will be a capable machine, and millions will buy it...

and for the argument over blu-ray, it was an even keel battle with HD DVD until the porn industry got behind (pun intended) blu-ray... porn has always driven the technology industry forward and in this instance, they chose blu-ray...

and you argue (blacksox) that microsoft didn't focus on games and instead talked about their system and what it can do... umm, wasn't this press conference about revealing the new system?? what makes you think they have to show games?? playstation didn't really talk about games either...

Porn didn't get behind blu-ray over HD-DVD. HD-DVD outright claimed they wouldn't let porn be distributed on HD-DVD, so porn had to follow blu-ray.

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Idk, I think it was decided way before that. All else equal, playstations came with blueray and xbox360 did not come with hddvd.

I think that was what set hddvd back IMO

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