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#1 JamieMilne

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:58 AM

Spreading the word. Wouldn't normally do it and I was sceptical at first before viewing the video. But it really is quite a powerful documentary. Take the time to view it. Share the word on Facebook etc.





Joseph Kony is known as the World's Worst War Criminal. But no one knows that. Yet.

If you haven't already, please take 20 minutes and watch the video: and read about it at http://www.kony2012.com

For 26 years, Kony has been abducting children and turning them into child soldiers and/or sex slaves. He is listed as #1 on the ICC's 'World's Worst War Criminals', and late last year the US government deployed 100 military advisors on a 'time-limited' mission to help the Ugandan army track him down. IF KONY ISN'T CAPTURED THIS YEAR, THEY WON'T GET ANOTHER CHANCE.

We need to make Kony so famous he becomes a household name, like Gaddafi or Beyoncé. We need to let the US government know that this MATTERS to us, and that it's a worthwhile cause. Stop at nothing.

On April 20th 2012, the USA and other countries around the world are joining Invisible Children (http://www.invisiblechildren.com/) to make Kony famous by putting up red KONY 2012 posters, wearing red KONY 2012 tshirts and stickers. Our goal is to cover the night on 20th April with KONY's name on a sea of red, document this action, and send it to Invisible Children so the world will see that we are demanding justice.

Don't forget to pledge online at http://www.kony2012.com. If you want, you can order an Action Kit (http://store.invisib...m/kony-kit.html).

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR MONEY. We're asking for only 20 minutes of your day to watch the documentary, and if it stirs you, to join our night sweep on April 20th. If you're not convinced by this cause, then you're free to move on, but PLEASE PASS IT ON to your friends. They might want to help.


Where you live shouldn't determine whether you live.

Thanks for your support.
Arrest Kony.

If the world knows who Joseph Kony is, it will unite to stop him. It starts here!

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:05 AM

View PostJamieMilne, on 07 March 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

We need to make Kony so famous he becomes a household name, like Gaddafi or Beyoncé.

'Single Ladies' is annoying as shit, but I don't know if it counts as a war crime.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:07 AM

@Massacre he's referring to having his name as big as a celebrities name, although you could almost count single ladies as a crime against humanity.

OT: I think Hitler is the worlds worst war criminal, just saying. It also helps if you post the original video instead of the duplicate, they still both make an impact but the youtube video is easier to share and pass along.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:08 AM

Yeah I was just about to say that I would count 'Single Ladies' as a crime against humanity lol.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:10 AM

View PostConQueSteD, on 07 March 2012 - 02:07 AM, said:

@Massacre he's referring to having his name as big as a celebrities name.

I'm surprised that you, of all people, wouldn't have gotten that I was joking.

Also, I'm not on any sort of social networking sites, but if there are images of horrible third-world violence, I'll take 20 minutes out of my day to watch that video.

Edit: Wait, 30 minutes? Fuck.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:11 AM

View PostMassacre, on 07 March 2012 - 02:09 AM, said:

View PostConQueSteD, on 07 March 2012 - 02:07 AM, said:

@Massacre he's referring to having his name as big as a celebrities name.

I'm surprised that you, of all people, wouldn't have gotten that I was joking.


I knew you weren't serious because you never are, I figured I would be the one to point it before somebody else did. Either way Single ladies is a shit song that shouldn't ever been made.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:12 AM

I could think of worse war criminals. And they're American.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 08:18 AM

I don't see the problem with creating child soldiers. From my experience, once you kill them a few times they have a hissy fit and start screaming down their microphone...

Also: http://www.reddit.co...op_kony/c3yil0i

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 11:55 AM

If the US Government is the only one that needs to hear about it, putting a poster up in my back garden isn't going to do much.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:08 PM

After 26 years, I think it's a bit late for people to pretend to care now. And considering Idi Amin was never brought to justice, I can't see anything being done about Kony. There are so many cunt bags running around Africa doing shit, and they will never be caught. They are kind of like reverse Pokemon.


This is only an issue because some douche decided to "think of the children". Yeah, stickers and shirts will fix this.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:10 PM

Anyone who gives to charity is stupid anyway.
  • It's usually just a tax dodge for the rich.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:45 PM

View PostJamieMilne, on 07 March 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

Joseph Kony is known as the World's Worst War Criminal. But no one knows that. Yet.

Sounds like a great film, when's it released?

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 05:29 PM

I love how everyone has started to care about this now.... : /

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 06:02 PM

View PostIcecoldbagey, on 07 March 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

I love how everyone has started to care about this now.... : /

I haven't even read it.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 06:18 PM

http://theeducatedfi.../we-got-trouble

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You do not need to ask my permission to share this. Please link it widely.
I do not doubt for a second that those involved in KONY 2012 have great intentions, nor do I doubt for a second that Joseph Kony is a very evil man. But despite this, I’m strongly opposed to the KONY 2012 campaign.
KONY 2012 is the product of a group called Invisible Children, a controversial activist group and not-for-profit. They’ve released 11 films, most with an accompanying bracelet colour (KONY 2012 is fittingly red), all of which focus on Joseph Kony. When we buy merch from them, when we link to their video, when we put up posters linking to their website, we support the organization. I don’t think that’s a good thing, and I’m not alone.
Invisible Children has been condemned time and time again. As a registered not-for-profit, its finances are public. Last year, the organization spent $8,676,614. Only 31% went to their charity program (page 6)*. This is far from ideal, and Charity Navigator rates their accountability 2/4 stars because they haven’t had their finances externally audited. But it goes way deeper than that.
The group is in favour of direct military intervention, and their money funds the Ugandan government’s army and various other military forces. Here’s a photo of the founders of Invisible Children posing with weapons and personnel of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army. Both the Ugandan army and Sudan People’s Liberation Army are riddled with accusations of rape and looting, but Invisible Children defends them, arguing that the Ugandan army is “better equipped than that of any of the other affected countries”, although Kony is no longer active in Uganda and hasn’t been since 2006 by their own admission.
Still, the bulk of Invisible Children’s spending isn’t on funding African militias, but on awareness and filmmaking. Which can be great, except that Foreign Affairs has claimed that Invisible Children (among others) “manipulates facts for strategic purposes, exaggerating the scale of LRA abductions and murders and emphasizing the LRA’s use of innocent children as soldiers, and portraying Kony — a brutal man, to be sure — as uniquely awful, a Kurtz-like embodiment of evil.” He’s certainly evil, but exaggeration and manipulation to capture the public eye is unproductive, unprofessional and dishonest.
As Christ Blattman, a political scientist at Yale, writes on the topic of IC’s programming, “There’s also something inherently misleading, naive, maybe even dangerous, about the idea of rescuing children or saving of Africa. […] It hints uncomfortably of the White Man’s Burden. Worse, sometimes it does more than hint. The savior attitude is pervasive in advocacy, and it inevitably shapes programming. Usually misconceived programming.”
Still, Kony’s a bad guy, and he’s been around a while. Which is why the US has been involved in stopping him for years. U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) has sent multiple missions to capture or kill Kony over the years. And they’ve failed time and time again, each provoking a ferocious response and increased retaliative slaughter. The issue with taking out a man who uses a child army is that his bodyguards are children. Any effort to capture or kill him will almost certainly result in many children’s deaths, an impact that needs to be minimized as much as possible. Each attempt brings more retaliation. And yet Invisible Children funds this military intervention. Kony has been involved in peace talks in the past, which have fallen through. But Invisible Children is now focusing on military intervention.
Military intervention may or may not be the right idea, but people supporting KONY 2012 probably don’t realize they’re helping fund the Ugandan military who are themselves raping and looting away. If people know this and still support Invisible Children because they feel it’s the best solution based on their knowledge and research, I have no issue with that. But I don’t think most people are in that position, and that’s a problem.
Is awareness good? Yes. But these problems are highly complex, not one-dimensional and, frankly, aren’t of the nature that can be solved by postering, film-making and changing your Facebook profile picture, as hard as that is to swallow. Giving your money and public support to Invisible Children so they can spend it on funding ill-advised violent intervention and movie #12 isn’t helping. Do I have a better answer? No, I don’t, but that doesn’t mean that you should support KONY 2012 just because it’s something. Something isn’t always better than nothing. Sometimes it’s worse.
If you want to write to your Member of Parliament or your Senator or the President or the Prime Minister, by all means, go ahead. If you want to post about Joseph Kony’s crimes on Facebook, go ahead. But let’s keep it about Joseph Kony, not KONY 2012.
~ Grant Oyston, visiblechildren@grantoyston.com
Grant Oyston is a sociology and political science student at Acadia University in Nova Scotia, Canada.
*For context, 31% is bad. By contrast, Direct Relief reports 98.8% of its funding goes to programming. American Red Cross reports 92.1% to programming. UNICEF USA is at 90.3%. Invisible Children reports that 80.5% of their funding goes to programming, while I report 31% based on their FY11 fiscal reports, because other NGOs would count film-making as fundraising expenses, not programming expenses.


That dude brings up some valid points. Giving money to an army with a track record of raping and looting is SMART and the right thing to do.

Also, who cares if Kony has child bodyguards? Just shoot the fuckers. It's no different to shooting a 12 year old in COD.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 06:26 PM

Sorry Jamie, looks as though no one gives a fuck about it. Maybe when we're all rich and without worries of our own we might consider donating a penny or two.

Well others might, I won't.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 08:14 PM

In my opinion hitler was and is the worst war criminal. he killed millions of innocent people. While kony killed maybe 100,000 at a push. I'm not saying he's good person but the worst war criminal is taking it a bit far. There were many worse war criminals then him.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 08:23 PM

View Postdanz0r, on 07 March 2012 - 08:14 PM, said:

In my opinion hitler was and is the worst war criminal. he killed millions of innocent people. While kony killed maybe 100,000 at a push. I'm not saying he's good person but the worst war criminal is taking it a bit far. There were many worse war criminals then him.

... the ICC isn't going to put a dead man on top of its most wanted list. Trying to quantify how bad these people are is silly. If you're going by kill count, what about Stalin? Exactly, it's not the point. When you get beyond a dozen deaths, it's just a statistic.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:14 PM

View PostIcecoldbagey, on 07 March 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

I love how everyone has started to care about this now.... : /

I'm proud to say I never cared, I just let the video play in the background for a few minutes out of courtesy, because I vaguely remember Jamie doing something cool a while back.

Personally, I'm disgusted this is getting so much attention around the net. People have been doing this kind of shit for thousands of years, this guy's nothing special.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:39 PM

View PostPsy, on 07 March 2012 - 08:18 AM, said:

I don't see the problem with creating child soldiers. From my experience, once you kill them a few times they have a hissy fit and start screaming down their microphone...

Also: http://www.reddit.co...op_kony/c3yil0i


Also, the marginal cost of child soldiers is fall lower than adult soldiers. Also, you can fit more into small areas and they don't have that whole "fear of death" thing figured out quite yet.

anyway, back to fighting terrorists and the axis of evil.





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